Change "we" to YOU.

Yes, let him go back to his lawyer's work of handling home sales. He was a self-aggrandized candidate and it turned voters off. With Elizabeth Warren it was and is what she can do for the people of Massachusetts, all the people. With Scott Brown it was what he could do for Republicans and how could he get away with and still get re-elected. I hated the cynicism with which he tried to placate RNC and still string Massachusetts voters along.

Gretchen,
It should therefore be quite interesting to observe how much Ms. Warren deviates from the Democratic Party marching orders once she moves to Washington herself.

From what we have seen, BOTH parties have corralled their members into following their "leaders" orders, VERY consistently.

Please tell me / us which senator(s) or congressmen are doing what their own minds are telling them to do?? Because that is a very rare person in D.C. indeed.

Much to do about nothing

dream on....he doesn't have the gravitas, intellect, compassion, and heart to do the job. The RNC ran Romney's election bid and look how that turned out. It's early days to be floating that trial balloon.

I agree Doug. He did and will continue to have my vote.

To Mary K Smith: It is good to have something to hope for, as rare as that is lately.

Have a great weekend and Thanksgiving!

Mark, Based upon the success of all the other Senators over the last few years, of BOTH parties, I highly doubt Elizabeth will be getting much of anything done; except of course some new furniture in her office.

I completely disagree with your assertion, he embarrassed me with his votes. He and his supporters like you were the "ill mannered" ones throughout the campaign. Were you out there doing the tomahawk chop?

I hear the Kings and Queens throughout the world are quite upset.

So, "Once a Republican", therefore you really don't think people should act like well mannered adults because you did not like how Mr. Brown voted while in office?

Or, since someone else acted poorly, now you have the right to demean yourself in public?

Change us to you remember

he gave an excellent, dignified concession speech, I'll grant that. And I'm a democrat. However the tone he set in the campaign was low and sleazy. In the many ways he disrespected his opponent, he disrespected the office of Senator and him self. And the high level of hostility in his followers continues in other discussions on PATCH. The rants and vitriol are unbecoming and ill become Americans who usually can be counted to come together after a tough election.

we'll just have to defeat him again, shouldn't be too hard. This is Massachusetts after all.

Gretchen,
If he runs for another office, being an "evolved open minded person" as I am sure you would rather be considered, wouldn't you listen to Mr. Browns' current concepts and statements instead of in effect having escewed him from any office for LIFE?

On the other hand, people you "like" you give second chances to, don't you?

It amazes me how the supposedly open minded / evolved democrats here are so quick to declare their lifelong vehement dislike for Scott Brown, when he really didn't do anything so "bad" to warrant such hatred.

There you go! A realistic appraisal! Thank you Mike!

I agree that the entire Congress has devolved into a dysfunctional political mess; however, there are some people (like Scott Brown), who nevertheless are genuine enough to be able to represent the best interests of us in the Senate.

So, as his campaign suggested, we should vote for the person not the party. And, as far as I could tell, Mr. Brown is a good person whom I was proud to have representing me.

We need more like him, not less.

Not realistic at all. I never saw the word "Republican" associated with him He was supposedly a bi-partisan member of the Senate. However, he voted 95% of the time along party (Republican) lines. And, we never really heard what he was doing down there in Washington. A nice guy, sure, but a pretty blah one also.

Yannaro: I don't know how you missed the fact that Scott Brown was a registered Republican? In fact when he won his Senate seat, it was a HUGE event BECAUSE he is a Republican.
As far as you not hearing what he was doing in Washington, most of the Senators and other Congressionals did not do anything of any merit, which might relate to why only around 25% of Americans are satisfied with our Congress.

Which could all be related to an un-informed electorate who keeps voting the incumbants back in, year after year without even knowing such things as what party they are affiliated with....... :-)

You have taken this in a different direction than intended.. What was meant was that her only chance for "change" will be in her office furniture. Which, if you review the entire Senates' most recent accomplishments, is born out as a viable reality.

Now, that is not anywhere near the depths which other commenters i.e, "clean toilets" have written.

thanks, Jean. Your comment made my day.
Voters knew that "Professor" ploy was a put down on anyone who has an education--an example of the American anti-intellectualism in this country that holds the USA back, particularly in math and science.

I'm no fan of Scott Brown and delighted that Senator-elect Warren will be our representative, but your pension comment is inaccurate:

From the CSRS Report for Members of Congress, Retirement Benefits for Members of Congress , Updated February 9, 2007
www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RL30631.pdf

Thus, at the close of the 109th Congress in December 2006, participants had a maximum of 23 years of service under FERS. Assuming that a Member retired at the end of 2006
with 20 years of congressional service under FERS, and a high-3 average salary of
$161,800, the initial annual FERS pension in 2007 would be:
[$161,800 x .017 x 20] = $55,012

Gee, I see you don't like pick up trucks, jackets, his daughters, or how he voted.

I suspect this is a side effect of a deeper issue in your life. Good luck with that.

Why would he have to sell his truck to be in the military? Do ALL soldiers or Marines have to sell their POV before reporting for active duty? I don't think so.

And, assuming you don't "like him", for whatever reason, is wishing that he joins the military something you see as a "bad thing" Katherine?

You know, the numerous people here who just type their ill wishes to an otherwise nice enough guy, are mostly displaying their own issues in their lives. I would bet if you met Scott, you would not make those sort of comments to him, face to face. I would hope and expect you would be decent enough to say hello, shake his hand, and perhaps you may delve into a discussion about some issue, or not, but to call him names, or wish him something you wouldn't apparently enjoy yourself, is just plain wrong.

Grow up, beyond the school yard antics... huh?

I did not lose anything, sir. As others have stated, and I agree with, perhaps Ms. Warren will provide whatever it is we might want, need, or expect in a Senator from Massachusetts.
So, there is NOTHING for me to "get over".

That's what I said, judged on the issues. Other comment of yours is a little too PC for me and ignores the full context of the thread.

"Marked for life." WOW. And you call yourself an evolved "Democrat"? REALLY?

Donna, I am sure that there are things I have done, and, or, said, at some point in my life which I would enjoy having the opportunity to rethink before being responsible for it again.
I would also assume there must be something from your life which you would rather not be "marked for life" about.

If not, and you truly feel as though a politician should be "marked for life" for a concept they once shared, then it is YOU who is the hard liner / Republican at heart.

I might be wrong, however I would like to think a Democrat can be a tad more humane than marking people for life.

FYI: Mr. Browns' abusers' crimes are beyond the Statute of Limitations.

Well Gretchen, not everyone, even prior victims of these crimes, wants to dedicate their lives to that specific issue. There are MANY issues in this world to focus upon, and we each pick our own. That YOU think this is the one he should focus upon is valid to YOU, but apparently not to him. But, to think less of him because he doesn't place the same priority in his own life for fighting back against his own experiences, is quite an extreme (read: unrealistic), expectation.

Isn't it more than enough that he shared such an intimate / personal experience with the WORLD in order to focus some attention on that crime? Give the man some credit for what he DID do!!!
Most in his shoes would not have done what he did.

Gretchen, If I was him, right now I would want to take a vacation with my wife. :-)

Perhaps while tanning on a Caribbean Island, he might re-charge his batteries and come out swinging for something. At the very least, he must be looking for a job.

Lets let the guy enjoy his privacy as a citizen again, and look to Ms. Warren to do the "leading" which was related to being a Senator.

I hope you have a wonderful Christmas & New Year.

OK Donna! But, the campaign is OVER. You can drop the vehement pro-Warren / hate-Brown stance, and just become a citizen again. :-) As far as being PC, Hell, I'm a sailor, (living aboard a nice one in Boston Harbor), so you can bet your farm that I do not hold my tongue.... :-)

Donna, let me thank you personally for your union work, your teaching, and your work as a Warren Campaign Coordinator. It was an uphill climb but her dignity and caring, her intelligence and warmth convinced voters that she wasn't the monster the RNC playbook Brown's campaign used made her out to be.
Don't let anyone silence you here or ever. It's our time to speak and be heard and not be silenced by the likes of some of the trolls here. 39 years!!! That is impressive.

Clarification to the "Don't let anyone silence you here or ever." statement..... As I must assume Donna understood, I was not in any way trying to silence her.
I was only pointing out that the campaign is over and that it is now up to Ms. Warren to do the job which she was voted in to do without any further need to slam Mr. Brown.

However, if you really want to continue to slam someone, if that is really important to you, perhaps some anger management counseling might be in order, for whoever feels so inclined....

Other than that, can't we just get along now and co-exist without any further name calling?

wish I'd thought of that!!!!

Well Vincent, neither of us "swings" that way, but you're entitled to your dreams....

totally agree Mark. Voters, most anyway, want LGBT persons included in those welcomed as equal. It's getting to be second nature.

Personally, I think it is ludicrous to have to acknowledge sexual preferences within a government role. What in Gods' name does someones' sexual interest have to do with our government. Shouldn't sex be left in the bedroom, away from taxation issues? However, as I said, this is just a personal opinion. Running for an office always includes waving to everyone, rooting for the Red Sox and kissing babies.... :-)

And what will be this "change" that is so needed around here? Is there some sort of "entitlement" (read: free lunch) just out of reach, or some new sort of social evolvement (read: legislation to the family), which someone is drooling for? What more could Government do for you Gretchen?

OK Vinny... pretty funny.... ha ha. Now go back to your class, your teacher is going to mark you absent and send a note home to your parents.

Well, Roe vs. Wade IS the law of the land now; so you can let that go.

Equal pay for equal work IS the law of the land now, so again, its done.

I have no idea what your declaration of being the "godmother to a gay, divorced, couples' son" means toward continuing to slam people.....?

And, without "paper work" NOBODY can go to any college.... so what was that statement about?

I am not "posturing" Donna, I am just pointing out reality. Why can't we be friends??? Go ahead and be a "Progressive Democrat" but you should still be able to be civil and not so ready to jump on anyone you perceive as not being as progressive as you.

Then, you last statement: "What you and your boyos tried to do to women in this country..." makes ZERO sense to me!? What in Gods' name are you talking about Donna?? First of all I don't have any "boys". And I have not tried to "do anything to women" besides co-exist with my wife.

So whatever it is you are being "vigilant and more vocal" about is between you and your paranoia, NOT ME.

My wife and I like to sail our boat, and enjoy life. We both work in technical professions, and have done so in California, Florida, Maine and lately Massachusetts. Lighten up Donna, not everyone is your enemy.
Some of us are JUST PEOPLE, i.e., citizens, trying to live our lives peacefully.

Sure, there will always be ongoing debates about issues like abortion, and room to go on the enforcement of existing laws too, however, I am not fighting on either side of these debates, so you're including ME in your enemies list only based upon my gender.
That is as much an example of bigotry as any of the others you claim to be so against.
You MUST feel a sliver of concern that you are transferring your personal demons onto too many men just because that is their gender, because that is your guilt with me, madam.
On any level, you must realize that is not healthy. We are all humans and the goal of life is to co-exist without hurting others, while reaching for our own happiness.
Yes, my wife and I enjoy sailing, etc., but that does not deserve any negative comments from you, any more than whatever floats your boat being held against you, as long as it doesn't hurt "us".
So, what this comes down to is you are clearly anti-men, for some reason, and can't even be civil with someone who happens to be one. Other than that, I have done nothing else to you to deserve your vehement vitriol and association with social laws, etc. I am not the Supreme Court. My name is Doug.... chill.

I did, and you are clearly telling ME to: "...Have you lovely life. I mean it, sail and drink your wine. But stay the heck out of the lives of girls and women. Keep your laws off my body and your rosaries off my ovaries."

Why in Gods' name would you tell me to stay out of the lives of girls and women? And tell ME to keep MY LAWS???? off your body, and MY ROSARIES????? off your ovaries???? Come on Madam?!

The laws of this nation, or Commonwealth are NOT MINE. I do NOT have any Rosaries. And I still have no idea why you would advise me to stay out of womens' lives?!?!

Gretchen, YOU have the "issues" here, NOT ME.

Gee Donna, THAT sure is a sentient response to my comment! REally?!

FYI, I am a Senior Software Engineer. Full time, with lots of ongoing boat projects too. I have plenty to do during the day, during the evening, and weekends too.

So apparently you have no remorse for your gender bias / bigotry, and have no inclination to apologize to me, or men in general, for your inappropriate comments?

I would have to assume this "issue" has had many effects upon your life.
Good luck with that.

Jim McGovern!!! He is the BEST!!! Quietly serving his constituents, doing what he can to move his district and the nation forward! He is THE best Representative in the country and he is a role model to Joe Kennedy.

Willy, IF you READ what I said, and what I was reacting to having been said, then you would realize what you wrote is entirely off track.

I did not ask her for an apology for who she voted for. I asked her for an apology for her bizzare accusations and statements to me.

Here, read what I said again:

I did, and you are clearly telling ME to: "...Have you lovely life. I mean it, sail and drink your wine. But stay the heck out of the lives of girls and women. Keep your laws off my body and your rosaries off my ovaries."

Why in Gods' name would you tell me to stay out of the lives of girls and women? And tell ME to keep MY LAWS???? off your body, and MY ROSARIES????? off your ovaries???? Come on Madam?!

The laws of this nation, or Commonwealth are NOT MINE. I do NOT have any Rosaries. And I still have no idea why you would advise me to stay out of womens' lives?!?!

Gretchen, YOU have the "issues" here, NOT ME.

when are you going to get over your false umbrage. Bill O'Reilly does the mock outrage better. But like you there is no reason for the nonsense above.

here, learn something.
http://www.alternet.org/story/153635/how_christian_right-wing_voters_in_iowa_make_abortion_a_central_issue_in_the_caucuses

Doug and scott. I think by this point you guys should be getting over the election. Yes, it's a loss, a real one. But pick yourselves up and get on with life. The hate and resentment is hurting you, not me. The pouting, moaning and groaning, whining, ill befits an adult human being. We lived through 8 disastrous years of Bush II. You will survive Obama and may even learn to like some of what he tries to do....if you open your minds a wee bit.